Gaming is a constant battle between triple A big franchises and under the radar indie developers. Only one will reign supreme. Or both. There's room in the market for both. Goliath and his guest Zach Damerval talk the pros and cons of little fish in big ponds - by addressing development cycles, rushed products and funding. We talk Call of Duty, Last of Us, Rime, Portal, Undertale and Five Nights at Freddy's.